Elizabeth Jenkins and Juan
Peake
I wrote you below and I do so again so as to expedite matters. It is understood that you have agreed that Eva and I have to the end of this month to respond. Clearly, Dr. Zeimer would have essentially liked an immediate agreement.
It is imperative that this is understood to be inimical to fair play / natural justice.
We will respond within 7 days of your confirmation of this and comments verifying same as being more than a fair representation of what was conveyed to us via your shuttle between Dr Zeimer and ourselves.
It is important for both parties to have a written confirmation of what took place on Tuesday 7 July; as per the mediation / FDR on your premises.
Here under I am merely being helpful in confirming matters as they occurred.
And this entails basically only Dr. Zeimer's comments and conditions relating to our grandchildren.
It is possible these notes - largely written well after our meeting may not be a perfect representation of what took place between the parties over more than 3 hours, methinks.
Please be generous of minor errors of no import.
It should be noted that essentially I make no attempt to comment herein. Nor supply contrary matters material or otherwise debate or add value - judgements .....
This is in need of an edit: you can do so if you wish: I have already spent too much time on same on my Sunday.
Our grandchildren will be here soon: I would rather play with them.
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In your confirmation of the accuracy of my notes, you are free to expand on same in case anything salient comes to your mind. expand: I do not think you need to correct anything in this cryptic scribble.
DR ZEIMER WANTS / SAID: E&OE.
I wrote you below and I do so again so as to expedite matters. It is understood that you have agreed that Eva and I have to the end of this month to respond. Clearly, Dr. Zeimer would have essentially liked an immediate agreement.
It is imperative that this is understood to be inimical to fair play / natural justice.
We will respond within 7 days of your confirmation of this and comments verifying same as being more than a fair representation of what was conveyed to us via your shuttle between Dr Zeimer and ourselves.
It is important for both parties to have a written confirmation of what took place on Tuesday 7 July; as per the mediation / FDR on your premises.
Here under I am merely being helpful in confirming matters as they occurred.
And this entails basically only Dr. Zeimer's comments and conditions relating to our grandchildren.
It is possible these notes - largely written well after our meeting may not be a perfect representation of what took place between the parties over more than 3 hours, methinks.
Please be generous of minor errors of no import.
It should be noted that essentially I make no attempt to comment herein. Nor supply contrary matters material or otherwise debate or add value - judgements .....
This is in need of an edit: you can do so if you wish: I have already spent too much time on same on my Sunday.
Our grandchildren will be here soon: I would rather play with them.
############################################################################
In your confirmation of the accuracy of my notes, you are free to expand on same in case anything salient comes to your mind. expand: I do not think you need to correct anything in this cryptic scribble.
DR ZEIMER WANTS / SAID: E&OE.
- He wants contact with us suspended till December 2016 till after Dina' batmitzwah in November 2016.
- He mentioned that Dina is suffering from incontinence that he attributes to seeing us.
- Dr Zeimer told you that she was suffering thus before ... but she is now very anxious.
- Dr Zeimer went on to tell you that her anxiousness was manifest days before and for several days after our incipient meeting.
- And Dr Zeimer also said that the MURAL (as he calls the mozaic) that is being made / contributions by former teachers, friends, anyone who knew her is welcome to participate in helping create it.
- I cannot help but mention that our synagogue produced a HAGADDAH FOR PASSOVER in Ruchie’s honour: DR ZEIMER REFUSED THE CHILDREN PERMISSION TO ACCEPT SAME FROM US. Oh dear – I promised not to make value – judgements – even valueless judgements! Haggadah - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
- We are honoured that the school where our daughter was a valued teacher and where her children currently go to school ... have seen fit to honour our daughter Rachel ( Ruchie) Zeimer.
- Dr. Zeimer also told you that Dina has suffered from anxiety as a result of the partially completed mosaic. In spite of it to be honouring her mother.
- Dr. Zeimer also told you that Dina has suffered from anxiety on the days prior to her seeing us and for several days thereafter.
- AND THAT THE MOZAIC HAS MADE IT WORSE. So you told us.
- Dr Zeimer also conveyed to you that he has had medical / psychological advice along the above / attesting to the above being caused by our wonderful grandchild's monthly visits to us.
- Dr Zeimer declined too give us any further information. Nor the identity of said psychologists: it is presumed that there may be two of them.
- It is however somehow presumed that the entities are not the entities who contributed to his IVO he issued against us around 2009 ??? Which was overturned by us being granted access to the children three years ago.
- Dr. Zeimer said to you that it will be OK for us to see the children at public events at the children's school.
- Arising from that, I asked Dr Zeimer to release the MARCH 2012 document he or his solicitor sent to the children's school advising the school that we are not allowed to go to the school premises. The school read us the document: we were so advised. Dr Zeimer later told us on July 7 that the document is ''privileged'' He refused to release it nor allow the school to release it. Nor did he claim that our visits to the school in any way breached our agreement of FEB 2012. NOR did he comment on it further than above. Kindly confirm that this too was discussed. [in substantially greater length.]
- DR ZEIMER ALSO TOLD YOU: that we are not allowed to give birthday presents to the children.
- He said that he will pass these presents on to the children if they are given to him. He insists that there be be no direct contact between grandparents and our grandchildren via these presents or any other....
- Dr. Zeimer advised you that our grandson Reuvi will write to us - on his own terms.I am not sure what this means ......
- Dr Zeimer asked you to convey to us that Dina will also write to us: ostensively about our estrangement to be.
- I note for the record that you, Elizabeth decided on your own self - claimed initiative that Dr Howard Zeimer and ourselves would not meet. these were your words.
Kindly confirm the above’s accuracy representing a fair
and correct representation of what Howard Zeimer told you.
Kindly cut and paste this to your letter: it will simply save time allowing us to promptly respond.
Which should suit Dr Zeimer.
Yours Sincerely
Geoff Seidner
Kindly cut and paste this to your letter: it will simply save time allowing us to promptly respond.
Which should suit Dr Zeimer.
Yours Sincerely
Geoff Seidner
Haggadah - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haggadah
The Haggadah (Hebrew: הַגָּדָה , "telling"; plural: Haggadot) is a Jewish
text that sets forth the order of the Passover Seder. Reading the Haggadah at the Seder
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From: g87
Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2015 1:53 PM
Cc: eva seidner
Subject: To Elizabeth Jenkins and Juan Peake
To Elizabeth Jenkins and Juan Peake
Dear people
Thank you for mediation on 7 July.
I ask you to set out in email Dr Zeimer’s solution / comments / whatever the terminology you care to designate to what he told you.
It is expected that you will also set it out in a letter to us.
Kindly do so soon so matters can be expediated.
Yours Sincerely
Geoff Seidner
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