Nick Collins
Senior Manager Western
Area | CatholicCare
Family Relationship Centre
Family Relationship Centre
Suite 2, 27-31 Myer
Street
Geelong VIC 3220
Dear Nick
ANALYSIS OF YOUR 'YELLOW SHEETS AND MORE>>>
AND SOME REFS TO YOURS OF 20 July
I make this overview of merely this document as below.
Kindly note that this is intended to be broadly a rough – and – ready dissertation of YOUR HELP SHEETS - THE SO - CALLED 'YELLOW DOCUMENTS' SENT US WHEN CATHOLIC CARE SENT US THEIR INVITATION TO ATTEND MEDIATION WITH DR ZEIMER.
AND THE OBVIOUS CORROLARY: YOUR PEOPLE’S UTTERLY CONTEMPTUOUS BEHAVIOUR!
Note that I have not been able to append these helpful [no sarcasm] documents in the current correspondences - nor the first couple of CC posted letters.
Note that there is possibly not much wrong with the contents of your help sheets – except perhaps that your people amazingly felt enabled to do what they did!
It does not much matter - because you obviously have the material in your possession. You will understand everything.....
And 'others' will get by / with what is provided here: AND THAT IS:
- A CRYPTIC ANALYSIS OF WHAT DR ZEIMER CLAIMED,
- CC DULY ALLOWED,
- AND MY ATTEMPT AT THE BAREST REAL - WORLD [AT TIMES CRYPTIC] ANALYSIS OF THESE RESPECTIVE POSITIONS.
I make these remarks out of consideration to those who are / will be needing to come to terms with merely what resides herein.
There is nothing further to gain by going into the merits / considerable demerits of the causes of action by CC, Dr Howard Zeimer and ourselves. We did not do much except plaintively plead with CC for fair play....!!
I am however now thoroughly annoyed that even this is a massive encumbrance on my time.
The reader should be aware that an amalgam of ALL MATTERS MATERIAL IN ALL DOCUMENTS CAN AND WILL BE PROVIDED TO THE COURTS AND / OTHER PARTIES AS REQUIRED.
THIS TO ENSURE WHATEVER I WISH TO ENSURE.
Again note prev, email: I have lots of options of direct action and or reaction.
READ THIS CAREFULLY AND UNDERSTAND THE ABOVE SENTENCE PLEASE
This entity does not imply any particular course of action we may take. You will appreciate we may wait for your and Dr Zeimer’s next move. Refer to earlier specified and non - specified items.
Enough of this preamble.
Note that these comments are reasonable well written but perhaps difficult for those not familiar with said documents.
Remember that this below was written in parts over days and may not flow.
It may be regarded as not my best work.
I thought to send it to you Nick so you can avail yourself.....
GS
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I respond to your email and confirmatory hard copy of
20 July which has arrived in the post.
And thank you for reconfiguring the email as per earlier comments. Note that the below is not so much a response to yours - it is an attempted thorough analysis of broadly your 'yellow sheets' sent by your people with the first approach to us on 18 May:
'FAMILY DISPUTE RESOLUTION INFORMATION. Note please that I am doing so via a series of SOMETIMES numbered points in places so as to perhaps make it easier for any of my / any parties to correlate.
And indeed easier for me also. Furthermore - who knows where these papers finish: I try to be practical to the authorities: and these pages will sadly have to be rewritten.
It is important to note carefully any partial repetition herein. THIS MAY BE SO - IN RELATION TO EARLIER EMAILS. But remember this is broadly a clear analysis of your own document and repetition is of no real import.
NOR DO THESE WORDS PURPORT TO LIMIT MATTERS TO WHAT RESIDES HEREIN: I AM MERCIFULLY BEING SUCCINCT!
Kindly note the issues you refused to contemplate! Note the exclamation mark.
Further note that this is by no means a complete document / entity. Depending where this lamentable matter goes, the numbering system will also be a convenient method for those parties to come to terms with. Unorthodox but surely helpful. And easy for me to add to / your people to respond to.
I have not examined the Family Law Act.
Again - please note. I am herein... merely notating your 'yellow' docs.
AND TO PLAINLY DEMONSTRATE THAT YOU HAVE PLAINLY BROKEN EVERY RULE IN YOUR OWN BOOK!
WORSE _ THESE RULES OF BEHAVIOR ARE / WERE INCUMBENT ON CATHOLIC CARE TO OBEY: THEY HAIL FROM THE FAMILY COURT!!
I will some day soon ask you about the socialist SPONGIAN theology pasted around your rooms at Malvern.....pure trite codswallop.......
https://www.google.com.au/#q=spong+liberation+theology
And thank you for reconfiguring the email as per earlier comments. Note that the below is not so much a response to yours - it is an attempted thorough analysis of broadly your 'yellow sheets' sent by your people with the first approach to us on 18 May:
'FAMILY DISPUTE RESOLUTION INFORMATION. Note please that I am doing so via a series of SOMETIMES numbered points in places so as to perhaps make it easier for any of my / any parties to correlate.
And indeed easier for me also. Furthermore - who knows where these papers finish: I try to be practical to the authorities: and these pages will sadly have to be rewritten.
It is important to note carefully any partial repetition herein. THIS MAY BE SO - IN RELATION TO EARLIER EMAILS. But remember this is broadly a clear analysis of your own document and repetition is of no real import.
NOR DO THESE WORDS PURPORT TO LIMIT MATTERS TO WHAT RESIDES HEREIN: I AM MERCIFULLY BEING SUCCINCT!
Kindly note the issues you refused to contemplate! Note the exclamation mark.
Further note that this is by no means a complete document / entity. Depending where this lamentable matter goes, the numbering system will also be a convenient method for those parties to come to terms with. Unorthodox but surely helpful. And easy for me to add to / your people to respond to.
I have not examined the Family Law Act.
Again - please note. I am herein... merely notating your 'yellow' docs.
AND TO PLAINLY DEMONSTRATE THAT YOU HAVE PLAINLY BROKEN EVERY RULE IN YOUR OWN BOOK!
WORSE _ THESE RULES OF BEHAVIOR ARE / WERE INCUMBENT ON CATHOLIC CARE TO OBEY: THEY HAIL FROM THE FAMILY COURT!!
I will some day soon ask you about the socialist SPONGIAN theology pasted around your rooms at Malvern.....pure trite codswallop.......
https://www.google.com.au/#q=spong+liberation+theology
I offer the above to caution your people: it is not a
good idea to play procedural games with me. Sadly your letter is so. Surely pure
sophistry. ANALYSIS OF SAME will be left for another day
[ALREADY PARTLY DONE PER PREV EMAIL!]
. I have a feeling that this document will surely be seen as some significant debunking of your letter - which sadly misinterprets and worse selects issues that you feel safe to expand upon.
[ALREADY PARTLY DONE PER PREV EMAIL!]
. I have a feeling that this document will surely be seen as some significant debunking of your letter - which sadly misinterprets and worse selects issues that you feel safe to expand upon.
This is no way to handle
my person. Please do not so insult me: it will be seen as, at best game - playing.
SO: I guess you can have nightmares contemplating the
grave reductive over - simplicity of your 5th line.... ''MY UNDERSTANDING OF
YOUR REASONS FOR COMPLAINT WERE:'' I guess you will by the multiple denouements
see what is implied here.
THE YELLOW SHEETS IN MAIN
HEADINGS
I now list various key 'motherhood - type' words
phrases that are extant in said yellow documents All deserve extrapolation at a
later date.
- BEST INTEREST OF THE CHILD
- IMPROVE COMMUNICATION
- REDUCE CONFLICT
- ANY MATTER CONSIDERS RELEVANT TO THE FDR
- MAKE A GENUINE EFFORT TO RESOLVE ISSUES
- PRIVACY .. and mercifully no more for now.././,/,;.,.,.
MATTERS
IGNORED BY YOU!
You are so gently cautioned that there were lots of
things I / we [my wife Eva] tried to tell you that should have been noted.... I
CANNOT UNDERSTAND HOW IT IS POSSIBLE FOR YOUR OWN DOCUMENTS' TERMS TO BE SO
EXECRABLY EXCORIATED ...TREATED
I note for my consideration mainly for
now:
- TO WIT ADLER!!
- LSC!!
- GADENS... I leave this alone: where in your yellow papers are you allowed to treat the other party with clear contempt?
THE ABOVE CONCERNS CC IN THAT I WAS PLAINLY IGNORED
WHEN I TRIED TO MENTION SAME!!!
SO HERE COMES THE LIST DIDACTICALLY NOTE
Page 1/4
\
''Needs and best interest of the children'' >>> HOW SO??
To improve communication >>>> REALLY? BY ENSURING THERE WAS NO COMMUNICATION???!!!
AND OF COURSE THE DEAR LADY TOOK ON FOR HERSELF THE UNILATERAL DECISION TO ENSURE THERE WAS NO COMMUNICATION!! AND WORSE: THAT THERE WAS NO MEANS OF HOLDING THE OTHER PARTY TO THE BAREST ELEMENTS OF TRUTH SHE HAD TO KNOW THIS! THIS WAS NOTHING BUT GUILELESS MANIPULATIVE OUTRAGE!
''ANY OTHER MATTER THE FDR CONSIDERS RELEVANT TO THE FDR PROCESS''
OH DEAR - THIS IS PATHETIC... NO TIME TO GO INTO THIS MANIFEST CHIMERA DERIVATION OF HER HYPOCRASY ENCRUSTED ALL OVER THIS!
Page 2/4
READ PART % !! COMPULSORY FDR: ''THE OBJECT OF SECTION 601 is to ensure that all parties to a dispute about matters relating to children MAKE A GENUINE EFFORT TO RESOLVE THE DISPUTE BY FDR PRIOR TO COURT PROCEEDINGS BEING COMMENCED.''
J'ACCUSE!!
See item 6 ... certificates
See 6and [b]... no time to write out!
also 6.2... rewarding costs!!!
Now we come to the confidentiality scam: ''CONFIDENTIALITY OF COMMUNICATION... THERE IS SOME UNCERTAINTY..
Really? no time
NOW 7.1 to 7.8,,,, WOW..
Page 3/4 IT says: AN FDR PRACTITIONER MUST NOT DISCLOSE UNLESS ... 7,2 to 7.8
WOW!! FEDERAL STATE LAW!! OH - I can hardly wait to contemplate what the FEDERAL OR STATE LAW HAS TO SAY ABOUT THE ENTIRE / ANY PART OF THIS!!!!!! Even as the barest simplicity of any tangents of what is so brazen and what is less brazen and what are plain lies!!!
Page 1/4
\
''Needs and best interest of the children'' >>> HOW SO??
To improve communication >>>> REALLY? BY ENSURING THERE WAS NO COMMUNICATION???!!!
AND OF COURSE THE DEAR LADY TOOK ON FOR HERSELF THE UNILATERAL DECISION TO ENSURE THERE WAS NO COMMUNICATION!! AND WORSE: THAT THERE WAS NO MEANS OF HOLDING THE OTHER PARTY TO THE BAREST ELEMENTS OF TRUTH SHE HAD TO KNOW THIS! THIS WAS NOTHING BUT GUILELESS MANIPULATIVE OUTRAGE!
''ANY OTHER MATTER THE FDR CONSIDERS RELEVANT TO THE FDR PROCESS''
OH DEAR - THIS IS PATHETIC... NO TIME TO GO INTO THIS MANIFEST CHIMERA DERIVATION OF HER HYPOCRASY ENCRUSTED ALL OVER THIS!
Page 2/4
READ PART % !! COMPULSORY FDR: ''THE OBJECT OF SECTION 601 is to ensure that all parties to a dispute about matters relating to children MAKE A GENUINE EFFORT TO RESOLVE THE DISPUTE BY FDR PRIOR TO COURT PROCEEDINGS BEING COMMENCED.''
J'ACCUSE!!
See item 6 ... certificates
See 6and [b]... no time to write out!
also 6.2... rewarding costs!!!
Now we come to the confidentiality scam: ''CONFIDENTIALITY OF COMMUNICATION... THERE IS SOME UNCERTAINTY..
Really? no time
NOW 7.1 to 7.8,,,, WOW..
Page 3/4 IT says: AN FDR PRACTITIONER MUST NOT DISCLOSE UNLESS ... 7,2 to 7.8
WOW!! FEDERAL STATE LAW!! OH - I can hardly wait to contemplate what the FEDERAL OR STATE LAW HAS TO SAY ABOUT THE ENTIRE / ANY PART OF THIS!!!!!! Even as the barest simplicity of any tangents of what is so brazen and what is less brazen and what are plain lies!!!
- 7.5.. ''may disclose for the purpose of... [a] protecting a child from harm... PSYCHOLOGICAL!!!! EXCUSE ME = IS WHAT THE FATHER DOING NOT RING ANY SOCIALIST BELLS??? HOW CONTEMPTUOUS OF THE WELFARE OF CHILD --- WE MENTIONED THIS AND WERE IGNORED!!! SHAME!!!
- 7,6 : FDR PRACTITIONER MAY DISCLOSE INFORMATION NECESSARY FOR THE PRACTITIONER TO GIVE A CERTIFICATE NECESSARY UNDER SUBSECTION 601/8 OF THE ACT'' WOW!!! THIS IS ALLOWED AND UNDERSTAND THAT PRIVACY IS SURELY OBVIATED!! I COULD WRITE A THESIS HERE!....................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................
- 7.7 section 10J of the Act..ie that: ''THE PRACTITIONER'S evidence is not admissible in court even if subsections 7.2 to 7.6 allows the practitioner to disclose it in other circumstances.'' DO NOT THINK THIS ENABLES HIDING FROM HAVING TO GIVE EVIDENCE IF MATTERS GO TO A SITUATION THAT FORCES DISCLOSURE!! AND I WILL DO SO!
- THIS FURTHERMORE DOES NOT OBVIOUSLY OBVIATE A COMPLAINT AGAINST A PRACTITIONER... if it goes to said credibility ... and much more re law may be a proverbial ass - but not an immoral one!
Note that it is not merely the credibility of the said
practitioner.
or the insurmountably adverse bias
thereof.
Nor do I want to contemplate what I will discover from
being able to ensure that the Practitioner / when is examined by the
processes IO will set in
place.
And the reader eloquent will note that this is a
virtual mirror of serious allegations against the p.
It is the sheer absurdities that get to me: why did
she think she would get away with it?
Has she never met a grieving, eloquent, very
determined grandparent who is determined to use his skills to familiarize
himself with processes of her chimera?
Surely this is all so irregular.
It was starring them in the face: DR ZEIMER AND HIS WIFE'S OUTRAGES WERE STARING THEM IN THE FACE ---- on so many fronts.
It may be seen that if this could happen they should be barred and worse....
Look for goodness sakes; they did everything to protect Zeimer.
We were denied natural justice.
THIS IS IN TOTO FRAUD!
It is an insult to the family court to allow them to practice their 'craft.'
J'accuse!
There is no way they did any / all in good faith and any attempt at protecting them will leave CC suffering as an inevitable indubitable bi product.
People have motivations for acting the way they do.
I search for it.
This is a serious allegation: but in the absence of anything else, like my baldness and ' or ageism - I am going where it is natural to go!!!!
Page 4/4
item 8
This area sadly for Catholic Care refers ONLY to matters / evidence said / admissions made.
IT PLAINLY DOES NOT ALLUDE TO WHAT THE PAIR PRIMA FACIE REFUSED TO ALLOW US TO MENTION.
IE mention when we were told ...see some dot points below:
IE ANYTHING THAT WENT TO THE ZEIMERS LACK OF CREDIBILITY AND MORE IMPORTANT - LACK OF COMMON SENSE! AND PATHETICALLY CC - WITH ASTONISHING SYCOPHANTICY TO HIS MEDICAL DEGREE AND BETTER LOOKS THAN MINE AND BETTER RESOURCES BEING A BILLIONAIRE - SWALLOWED THIS ADULTERATED GARBAGE!!!!!
I AM SO HAPPY HE IS A BILLIONAIRE - THE CHILDREN WILL NOT HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT HIS SOWS EAR!!
It was starring them in the face: DR ZEIMER AND HIS WIFE'S OUTRAGES WERE STARING THEM IN THE FACE ---- on so many fronts.
It may be seen that if this could happen they should be barred and worse....
Look for goodness sakes; they did everything to protect Zeimer.
We were denied natural justice.
THIS IS IN TOTO FRAUD!
It is an insult to the family court to allow them to practice their 'craft.'
J'accuse!
There is no way they did any / all in good faith and any attempt at protecting them will leave CC suffering as an inevitable indubitable bi product.
People have motivations for acting the way they do.
I search for it.
This is a serious allegation: but in the absence of anything else, like my baldness and ' or ageism - I am going where it is natural to go!!!!
Page 4/4
item 8
This area sadly for Catholic Care refers ONLY to matters / evidence said / admissions made.
IT PLAINLY DOES NOT ALLUDE TO WHAT THE PAIR PRIMA FACIE REFUSED TO ALLOW US TO MENTION.
IE mention when we were told ...see some dot points below:
- They allowed unimpeached the obscene idiocy that the children were distressed with the honour bequethed on their mother by the school!
- AND this was touted as reason for bedwetting!
THIS IS THE ULTIMATE IN CC FAILURE!!!!!
IE ANYTHING THAT WENT TO THE ZEIMERS LACK OF CREDIBILITY AND MORE IMPORTANT - LACK OF COMMON SENSE! AND PATHETICALLY CC - WITH ASTONISHING SYCOPHANTICY TO HIS MEDICAL DEGREE AND BETTER LOOKS THAN MINE AND BETTER RESOURCES BEING A BILLIONAIRE - SWALLOWED THIS ADULTERATED GARBAGE!!!!!
I AM SO HAPPY HE IS A BILLIONAIRE - THE CHILDREN WILL NOT HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT HIS SOWS EAR!!
You can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear - Idioms by ...
idioms.thefreedictionary.com/You+can't+make+a+silk+purse+out+of+a+s...
Definition of You can't make a silk purse out of a sow's
ear in the Idioms Dictionary. You can't make
a silk purse out of a sow's
ear phrase. What does You can't
...
WHITHER
THE BAREST ELEMENTS OF MORALITY! Oh - forget morality: how about common
sense?
Just for the record - what manner of people are the duo of CC?
how could they so expose themselves to legal sanction if only for this?
I have decided to not bother for now with the last page [4/4 item 8] of the document.
For no particular reason.
I HAVE HAD ENOUGH OF THIS FOR THE DAY: I HAVE OTHER THINGS TO ATTEND TO>
I do wish that you to contemplate our inchoate meeting and the obvious impossible situation.
I would like to think you would not have acted the way the duo did........
Yours Sincerely
Geoff Seidner
Just for the record - what manner of people are the duo of CC?
how could they so expose themselves to legal sanction if only for this?
I have decided to not bother for now with the last page [4/4 item 8] of the document.
For no particular reason.
I HAVE HAD ENOUGH OF THIS FOR THE DAY: I HAVE OTHER THINGS TO ATTEND TO>
I do wish that you to contemplate our inchoate meeting and the obvious impossible situation.
I would like to think you would not have acted the way the duo did........
Yours Sincerely
Geoff Seidner
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